More Demos, Unreleased Material, and Hoaxes
1. Soundtrack Demos
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Suicide Is Beautiful
3. Mr. Manson's Home Demos
4. Miscellaneous Songs (including Snuffy's VCR)
5. Thrift Demo
6. Portrait Demos
7. Spooky Kids Phone Messages
8. Mini Cassette Recording
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1. Blender
2. Dreams of Amputation
3. Kill House
These three songs first appeared to the trading community on the White Trash Vol. 2 bootleg. They were listed supposedly as "rough four track demos (for film soundtrack)." These songs are creepy, atmospheric instrumentals that would be perfectly suited to a horror film, but they are NOT Spooky Kids songs. Scott himself has listened to these songs and confirmed that they are not from the Spooky Kids, Satan On Fire, Mrs. Scabtree, or any other Manson-related side project that he's aware of. Most likely, they were added by the bootleggers who produced the White Trash series as a way to get fans to spend their money for these supposedly rare songs.
Of course, that still doesn't answer the question as to who these songs were originally created by. Regardless of the fact that they are fakes, they still are pretty cool sounding, and I'd like to know who made them. If anyone has any more information on this, please e-mail me.
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1. Cyclops
2. Maskathon
The soundtrack songs are frequently referred to as Suicide Is Beautiful, which is incorrect (and fake anyway). "Suicide Is Beautiful (Outtakes 1991)" is another fake that appeared on White Trash Vol. 2 . The two tracks listed are actually just poor quality copies of Cyclops, White Knuckles, and My Monkey (not listed) from Grist-o-line and Big Black Bus.
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More mislabled tracks and incorrect information from Hurricane Records and their White Trash Vol. 3 bootleg. These are not "Mr. Manson's Home Demos" as they claim. They are actually the remaining tracks from the 100 Minute Demo that did not appear on Vol 1. or Vol. 2. and the quality is terrible. Unfortunately, this is also the source for most of the copies of these songs that have been floating around the internet.
Idiot Bootlegger's Title |
Correct Title |
| 1. Iron Man | 1. Son Of Man |
| 2. Mellow Yellow | 2. Junk The Magic Dragon |
| 3. Respected But Rejected | 3. Learning To Swim |
| 4. In The Sink (Simple String) | 4. IV-TV |
| 5. The Telephone | 5. Bitchy Beginnings Of An Oversexed Twelve Year Old (aka Talk Of One, Thought Of None) |
| 6. Suffocation | 6. Meat For A Queen |
| 7. Shop-Sha | 7. She's Not My Girlfriend |
| 8. Devil In My Lunch Box | 8. Devil In My Lunchbox |
| 9. Bone job | 9. Number Nine (pt. 1) |
| 10. Blood, Shit & Cum | 10. Number Nine (pt. 2) |
| 11. Those Fuckin' Bitches | 11. Number Nine (pt. 3) |
| 12. Mom's Vinyl Coat | 12. Cat In The Hat |
| 13. Justify My Love | 13. Justify My Love |
| 14. Dogma | 14. Strange Same Dogma |
15.Trouble in the Van |
15. Let Your Ego Die |
Miscellaneous Songs (per Scott's Discography)
1. All Fall Down
2. Bitchy Beginnings Of An Oversexed Twelve Year Old / The Nighthawks
3. Chalkboard Girl
4. Dungeon Master (Crippled Groom, Piss In The Wound)
4. Eating Jello Biafra
5. No Class / Styrofoam Raps
6. Snuffy's VCR
7. Charles In Charge
During their short time together, the Spooky Kids did write and record a number of songs that were never released on any demo tape. Some were complete, properly recorded songs, some were incomplete songs without lyrics, and others were just worked up at rehearsals. During our research for this page, Scott sent us some information about several previously unknown tracks.
All Fall Down - recorded April 1990. Described by Scott as their "first live-in-rehearsal track w/ Bundy/Tutunick (same lyrics as in Meat For A Queen)." It's just speculation on our part, but I'd have to guess that this track may be included on Raw Boned Psalms, seeing as how Tutunick has said that that tape was taken from an early rehearsal session. Bitchy Beginnings Of An Oversexed Twelve Year Old - 5:35 recorded January 1990. According to Scott, this is the correct title for the track frequently known as The Telephone, or as Talk Of One, Thought Of None on the 100 Minute Demo. May have been listed as Jesus Is My Boyfriend on the Beaver Meat Cleaver Beat. The instrumental section at the end is called The Nighthawks. Chalkboard Girl - 6:10 recorded May 1991. Scott lists this as "unfinished song (no lyrics applied)" Dungeon Master (Crippled Groom, Piss In The Wound) - 3:10 recorded ? |
Eating Jello Biafra - 3:15 recorded ?. Also listed as "unfinished song (no lyrics applied)" No Class / Styrofoam Raps - 4:35 recorded January 1990. Listed as "first ever Manson 4-track recording (vocal and drums). Snuffy's VCR - 5:50 recorded ? Rumors abounded for years that there was a four song demo tape called Snuffy's VCR. In actuality, Snuffy's VCR was simply one song that they did which was "a psychedelic soundscape/bizarre noises and sound effects." Also, in this old post from alt.music.marilyn-manson, Grim Jack said that Scott told him that Snuffy's VCR was the sound sampling program they used. Charles In Charge - Listed as Wrong Radio Noise on Birth of the Anti-Christ. Not an actual song they played, but sampled from the TV show theme and distorted. This was used as a live show intro from 1990. |
1. Thrift
2. Let Your Ego Die
3. She's Not My Girlfriend
4. White Knuckles
5. Strange Same Dogma
In November 1991, the band had put together a new five track demo called Thrift. For unknown reasons, the demo was shelved and never released. The version of Thrift here is the one that later appeared on Live As Hell, Refrigerator, and Lunchboxes & Choklit Cows. Apparently the other four songs are alternate versions which have never been released.
1. Insect Pins
2. Magic 8 Ball
3. Scardy Cat
4. Get Your Gunn
5. Sweet Tooth
6. Snake Eyes & Sissies
These six tracks weren't intended as a new cassette demo release, nor were they truly demos for the Portrait album. They were actually six songs from rehearsal sessions from early 1993 that apparenly were originally leaked by Gidget to some fans.
1. Murder Your Marilyn
2. Janet 974-7153
3. Volcanic Eruptions
4. Dennis 721-3383
5. Helter Skelter
Murder Your Marilyn This track is 64 minutes long, and is a conversation between Manson and a phone psychic. The message is long and rambling, more details to come. Janet Hey, this is Janet 974-7153 |
Volcanic Eruptions (note: This is a conversation between Manson and a club promoter. This was also found on the 100 Minute Demo before Justify My Love.) Dennis (note: this message can also be found on the 100 Minute Demo, before Devil In My Lunchbox.) Helter Skelter (note: this is Marilyn Manson reading lines from Charles Manson. This is probably one of the messages you would have got if you called the hotline back in the day.)
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Mini Cassette Recordings (7:26)
This is an interesting find. It appeared on a bootleg called the Lidsville Trailer Park Picnic along with several widely bootlegged Spooky Kids demos. It's a bunch of short segments recorded on a portable tape recorder as Manson wandered around town with some friends, reciting lyrics and poetry, and making observations. Manson's voice is easily distinguishable, but I'm not sure about the others. The one sounds a bit like Pogo and another might be Daisy, but it's hard to tell since they would have been much younger at the time this was recorded than compared to the later interviews I've heard them speak in. The tape also includes a complete reading of the "club" segement from Number Nine, and ends with a couple of short clips from unknown versions of Son Of Man and White Knuckles (probably from a rehearsal). The date is unknown, but I'd venture to guess that it's 1990 due to the bits of Son of Man and Number Nine.
(beep)
[pause]
(train horn blows)
Manson: ...the train and along came a choo choo, knocked my monkey coo coo, and now my monkey's dead.
(train horn blows again)
Manson: I had a little monkey, I sent him to the country and I fed him on gingerbread. Along came a choo choo, knocked my monkey coo coo, and now my monkey's dead. Then we walked around the tracks and we looked for body parts... hands or maybe feet. If I found a hand or a foot, then I wouldn't turn it in, I'd keep it. I'd more than likely take them myself and boil the skin off and have it for a necklace or something. We all are in a car, each our own. A herd of cattle, we move along, always ignoring lights.
(cars driving by can be heard in the background)
[pause]
Manson: Here on the ground, the ants crawl by each other and they walk over things that we see, and birds shit on the ground. Might be art to us, but it's just bird shit to them.
[pause]
Pogo(?): ...lots of liquid.
(something falls, sounds like maybe a soda can dropping from a vending machine)
Pogo(?): Now there's a sampler... (indecipherable over sound of cars) I tell ya, that's what it is.
Daisy(?): Start recording so we can get the thrill of walking.
Manson: Now we have the thrill of walking. I kick the leaves like the little people between my feet and I squish their thoughts in my toes and...
Pogo(?): Oh wow...
Manson: I run through the grass and I know...
(sound of pills shaking in a bottle)
Pogo(?): Advil...
Manson: Advil, Advil... Anna 'ad a Advil...
(sounds of cars and busses driving by)
Manson: ...gotta say hi... How you doing Teddy?
Teddy (sounds like an old bum they walked up to): Alright, you?
Manson: Pretty good. Pretty good these days.
Teddy: Yeah, I'm gonna go back in after a while and listen to them jib-jab all day long and they've been at it since four o'clock you know, most of it is traffic, where they're steering them.
Manson: Where you going back to?
Teddy: Back to Lincoln Street.
Manson: Oh, that's where you live?
Teddy: Yeah.
Manson: You just come up here and take a walk around?
Teddy: Yeah, I take a walk about every morning. They get me up too early, three thirty, four o'clock in the morning. So when it come eight o'clock I said I'll take a walk. I'll make it back by ten thirty.
Manson: Okay, have a good day.
Teddy: Sure.
Manson: Bye.
[pause]
(talking in a baby voice:)
Manson: It was a Halloweenie, and Frankenstein had a poop stain underwear on. And the wolfman went up to the Count Dracula and he said "You a bloody vampire." ...that's it.
[pause]
Manson: ...pretty good. Let me...
[pause]
Manson:
Standing outside, I look over the ledge.
I can see the trees and I can see the gravel and I want to jump but I don't know how.
"Take my money" is all that I think. He looks at the earring. "Fag," he mumbles.
I don't care. Life's too short. He's fat and nobody likes him.
I walk into the club and I pass a table of black girls with short hair.
They all look like men. They all look the same.
I can hear the strobe now. It's loud and the music is too bright.
I can't remember if I came alone or not, but it doesn't matter.
There are millions of people who waited all their lives, no doubt, just to be my friend.
As I near the bar I see two persons eating each other's faces.
I bark to the bartender, he gives me a placebo.
"You're so young," he says, "to be here."
I nod and swallow the bland drink.
And I walk over and I stumble near a crowd.
They think I'm a good dancer.
And I hear a girl tell another girl that she saw some girl she knows watche some other girl puke in the toilet.
I smile in their general direction.
The cute one comes over and she takes a bite from my cheek.
I start to hit her and she's grinning.
There's blood on her teeth. I don't know if it's hers or if it's mine.
"My place or yours," I ask her.
"The gutter will be fine," she confesses.
As we walk out of the club, she takes another bite out of my cheek.
And I laugh at the fat man by the door.
[pause]
Manson (in baby voice again): ...must have a problem with killing some races and getting caught, nobody wants to caught, you can't go to jail. If you kill somebody. Sure, sure I'd do it. No problem. There's nothing wrong with that. Put a knife in somebody's hand, just go kill somebody.
[pause]
(some background noise can be heard, and a faint "1,2,3,4," then the first couple of drum beats of Son Of Man)
(then it abruptly cuts to the end of White Knuckles. All that can be heard is Manson's vocals in the right channel and the keyboards in the left.)
Manson: ...you, you pulled me though with white knuckles! White knuckles! White knuckles! White knuckles! White knuckles! White knuckles!
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